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D, take the Tory glasses off mate! That was a Brown win, hands down. Funny to watch all the leaders trying to align themselves with Obama in some way though!

Working from home today and got to say the BBC News coverage is as bad as Dimbleby was last night.

the tories have nothing in common with obama, they were aligned with john mccain
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2006/au...ives.johnmccain
if anything they should be a bit more dignified and congratulate him and his party just as mccain has done.

now if they can jog on and let america celebrate in peace, thanks

just remembered that I could barely sleep last night. I didnt think I'd be affected by all this, but I was. Got up and felt like welling up

lets not fool ourselves... he aint gonna change things overnight, he's close to big business, he'll cock stuff up

but he's improved the image of the US globally and will be treated with more respect by leaders in the increasingly powerful middle east

i just cant get my head round a black president but need to focus on his policy decisions rather than his colour

btw.... did anyone see the scenes at the obama party at Gramaphone last night?

AMAZIN POLITICAL SCENES

D, take the Tory glasses off mate! That was a Brown win, hands down. Funny to watch all the leaders trying to align themselves with Obama in some way though!

Working from home today and got to say the BBC News coverage is as bad as Dimbleby was last night.

hahaha nah, it was a draw mate

But seriously, the 'novice' card (as i 'argued' on Monday) is a strong card for Cameron to play; especially as long as he continues to lead in the opinion polls - and one poll last weekend gave him [surprisingly] a 14 point lead, while others have him [more accurately] b/w 8&10 points ahead. Still enough to put him in 10 Downing Street. Interesting times...

: )

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Word.

Wonder what he's gonna do about this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7709603.stm

for starters.

Word.

Wonder what he's gonna do about this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7709603.stm

for starters.

and more Word!

let's not play the "race card" now

i couldnt sleep either and i went to bed at 4 ...

no one expects him to change things overnight, but just the fact that he was elected makes a huge difference and its a huge event

i hope this means its no longer acceptable this whole 'anti-american' thing in europe

liam were you at gramaphone??? i was there.. emotional scenes. did you see the girl doing a live pa singing?

Word.

Wonder what he's gonna do about this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7709603.stm

for starters.

and more Word!

let's not play the "race card" now

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

Martin Luther King.

Has the dream come true?

i couldnt sleep either and i went to bed at 4 ...

no one expects him to change things overnight, but just the fact that he was elected makes a huge difference and its a huge event

i hope this means its no longer acceptable this whole 'anti-american' thing in europe

liam were you at gramaphone??? i was there.. emotional scenes. did you see the girl doing a live pa singing?

no, just saw it on the TV. thought you might have gone but couldnt see you on the footage

A happy day for sure - yes after the celebrations, there will be the real test, trying to sort out many world issues... But I'm just plaeased George Bush is no longer in charge : )

do you reckon sarah palin would be up for a consoling shag right now?

just askin like

Word.

Wonder what he's gonna do about this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7709603.stm

for starters.

and more Word!

let's not play the "race card" now

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

Martin Luther King.

Has the dream come true?

partly yes but Obama's huge and well deserved victory wont change the racism over a night.

I echo the sentiment in Marco Polo's excellent response on page 10

What Obama does himself, time will tell, though I see sincerity and grounding in him that is not often apparent in politicians, and with some, as with John McCain, only when they reveal their true character, and not the one sponsored by the party (a heartfelt concession speech, said much more about the man than anything beforehand)

It's what he has done to the US and the world around us that puts this down as a defining moment...lets hope it's the start of many more

A toast to democracy, and the voice of the people...

Amazing news this morning.Its a great day.

Gotta feel sorry for Michael Moore though Thats 2 books and a film out the window for him

Watched the BBC coverage last night and the first pro-Republican female commentator was pretty hot, had a wee look of Penelope Cruz.

Simon Schama vs John "Total Dickhead" Bolton was a good face off, looked like both were straining at the leash to have a proper go at each other.

When Pennsylvania stayed Democrat, it just sort of felt like, yep, it's ON! As it thankfully turned out to be. Got to respect McCain for giving a very generous and humble concession too (despite the fuckin rednecks in the crowd booing).

See the Russians didnt send their congratulations and used the news as a way of highlighting their more and more bellicose face off with the US this morning.

John Bolton is a complete and utter dick, and spouts complete bullshit most of the time.

Did you see him arguing with the correspondant at the McCain headquarters about the detremental effect Sarah Palin had on the Republican ticket? He just couldn't accept the fact that beyond the hardcore, Christian right-wing of the party most reasonable Republicans and the majority of Americans realised that she was totally inadequate as a candidate.

im going to seek out this john bolton guy.

What a brilliant day it is today.

Unless I heard it wrong I thought I heard on the radio yesterday that Robert Kennedy predicted America would have a black President in forty years time. That was in 1968 before he got shot.

Good call Bobby!

Let's hope the CIA don't take out Obama too.

He's a massive whopper, nikes my man.

Was one of the most brass-necked of Bush's moves to make him Ambassador to the UN after basically saying that the UN was completely pointless and useless.

@ Neil - yeah, I saw that - totally wasnt listening to what the correspondent was saying and just talking over her. His views are generally to the right of right wing, backed with an uber-sanctimonious attitude that his word is gospel.

For all the cynicism that swirls around politics, I do believe this is a very special and siginificant time. Obama now has a mandate that is incontestable, and Republicans can feel fortunate that they will have a President who will work for them too. That hasn't been the case very often. The electoral map has been redrawn to a significant extent, though the South is still overwhelmingly red. Yet, Obama made huge gains on Kerry's performance in states like Georgia, Texas, North Carolina, South Carolina and Misssissippi. That bodes well for the Democrats in the future, not to mention their performance in the Congress. Howard Dean deserves praise for his policy of committing to compete in all 50 states from 2004 when he assumed the Chair of the DNC. As was he the first the really engage, or be engaged by, young voters, pioneering internet donations and building an impressive grassroots network.

I'm not one for hyperbole but Obama is, as best I can tell, beyond doubt. He will have many problems and crises, but those are what make the man. Sure he will serve America's interests first and foremost, but he has demonstarted that he will do business in a very different way. For all the talk of the racial glass ceiling being shattered, one thing I appreciate from his campaign is the prominence given to young people like David Plouffe (relatively young) and more so Jon Favreau, his main speechwriter and only 26 years old. Many people of a similar and younger age have been put in very senior positions in the campaign. Perhaps ability will come to the fore ahead of received wisdom about age, experience, credentials etc. Maybe that will trickle down to other sectors of society and change how businesses approach their workforce. The likes of Myspace, Facebook, Google and others, companies now bigger than many of the mainstays of US economic life were created by college students and those barely out of their teens. If anything, this is a triumph of ability over conventional wisdom.

I think a significant philosophical change that Obama will seek to engender will be the primacy of personal responsibility while at the same time helping one another. It's about time America, and virtually every other country, started looking after those who offer little or no tax revenue, those who are most vulnerable in society. We'll see.

John Bolton was "rewarded" for his FL recount work back in 2000. He is a walking crime against fashion:


Cell-phone style videos are pouring in from celebrations all over last night. Big spontaneous crowds at the White House, Lincoln Memorial, and U-Street ("Black Broadway") in DC:


DC went for Obama by something like 90%.

More videos are out there i'm sure.

haha i was... the camera crew were right next to us, on and off interviewing people from a group of african americans sitting nearby... it was packed!! people(lots of different nationalities) sitting on the floor, everywhere... got obama stencil on my shirt from this german girl who'd come with a load of homemade obama stencils.... everytime a result came through it was going mental, people were hugging randoms and cheering.. great night

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7710467.stm

I bet she loves a bit of iced spunk

I bet she loves a bit of iced spunk

wow

Total. Fucking. Dick.

im hooked.. mesmerised. what an A-hole.
i watched the gore vidal 'interview' earlier.. i love that guy.

just watching it now

he's a don

spike lee on bbc now

top boy

condoleeza rice's interview was pretty impressive too