FROM JAZZ FUNK & FUSION TO ACID JAZZ:

Beyond the Ballroom: A Celebration of UK Jazz Dance
19 July 2009
Cargo
Tickets: £10
DJs: Gilles & Snowboy

Coinciding with the publication of Mark ‘Snowboy’ Cotgrove’s book, From Jazz Funk & Fusion to Acid Jazz: The History Of The UK Jazz Dance Scene, Edge09 + Straight No Chaser has got together with The Barbican to celebrate the unique, underground, UK dance jazz movement which gave us aggressive, innovative and stylish dance crews like IDJ, Jazz Defektors, Brothers In Jazz, Foot Patrol, Floor Technicians and Jazzcotech, along with a host of highly individual dancers.

http://www.barbican.org.uk/music/event-detail.asp?ID=9158

Could be a must do (if that makes sense)

Tried to order this in a proper bookshop yesterday.

They said it would take 6 weeks to get it

Looks like it will have to be an online purchase then.

If you're still trying to get this... hold tight, its been withdrawn for a week or so due to a mix up with the printers. I was fortunate/unfortunate (whichever way you look at it!) to have gotten hold of the ahem.. rough cut white label promo

and have just finished reading it.
Highly recommended. In fact EVERYONE on Brownswood should read it just to see how this whole "Worldwide/Peterson/Jazzdance" scene all began and evolved. I'm off for the weekend now but I'll try and write a more detailed review when I get back.

QUOTE (appyammer al @ May 01, 2009 10:20 am)

If you're still trying to get this... hold tight, its been withdrawn for a week or so due to a mix up with the printers. I was fortunate/unfortunate (whichever way you look at it!) to have gotten hold of the ahem.. rough cut white label promo :

Mine was dispatched yesterday - so expecting it to arrive imminently.

What's the frock up at the printers all about then?

QUOTE (WeeGee @ May 01, 2009 10:41 am)

QUOTE (appyammer al @ May 01, 2009 10:20 am)

If you're still trying to get this... hold tight, its been withdrawn for a week or so due to a mix up with the printers. I was fortunate/unfortunate (whichever way you look at it!) to have gotten hold of the ahem.. rough cut white label promo :

Mine was dispatched yesterday - so expecting it to arrive imminently.

What's the frock up at the printers all about then?

There's a shed load of glaring typos mate. The wrong copy got printed apparently.
You'll prob get the same version Ive got.
eg "Foreward" instead of "Foreword." brownswood/2_2.png

Really need to get this book. This scene massively interests me.

On a side note - I've been asked to do my first ever jazz dance set at long running nottingham night "Out to Lunch" in June and I'm starting to get a little nervous. Any tips from brownswooders who have played such gigs would be greatly appreciated! Let me get this straight - this isn't playing jazz music to people in a bar as background music while people get sauced. That's a piece of piss. No, this is a full on jazz dance. They come to move and you've gotta make em shake it. I've already starting picking the records out and despite being a little apprehensive I'm also massively excited about the possibility of playing some more modern fusion type stuff to them as the majority of the music played down there is in essence pure old school. I might even throw in some more contemporary wonky flavours from maybe the likes of IG Culture and co. Always remember the dancers going nuts when Red Rack Em played em Moonstarrs "Movin' on" and the like last year. Nearer the time I'll post up a proper event but it's a gig that's gotta be one of the scariest for me.

QUOTE (Beane the Noodler @ May 01, 2009 10:59 am)

Really need to get this book. This scene massively interests me.

On a side note - I've been asked to do my first ever jazz dance set at long running nottingham night "Out to Lunch" in June and I'm starting to get a little nervous. Any tips from brownswooders who have played such gigs would be greatly appreciated! Let me get this straight - this isn't playing jazz music to people in a bar as background music while people get sauced. That's a piece of piss. No, this is a full on jazz dance. They come to move and you've gotta make em shake it. I've already starting picking the records out and despite being a little apprehensive I'm also massively excited about the possibility of playing some more modern fusion type stuff to them as the majority of the music played down there is in essence pure old school. I might even throw in some more contemporary wonky flavours from maybe the likes of IG Culture and co. Always remember the dancers going nuts when Red Rack Em played em Moonstarrs "Movin' on" and the like last year. Nearer the time I'll post up a proper event but it's a gig that's gotta be one of the scariest for me.

New Stuff??? No No No...

Trouble with the Jazz Dance scene is that it has never moved on. It is very hard to try and throw in new "old school" jazz dance as the majority of the dancers are of a certain age and era. Fair enough I say but they like those tunes that they remember and peform their routines to.

Stay strictly old school - plenty of fender rhodes fusion, some good hard bop and percussive / big band jazz. But it must be very up tempo. Playing new stuff at a jazz dance gig is a kop out I am afraid. Fine in a club that plays jazz of varying tempo's (nothing like throwing down a few mid tempo Brazilian numbers to get the females dancing).

Look at it this way....If they are not too welcoming on hearing old school jazz dance that is relatively new to their ears then new beats will be a bit of a shock. Stuff like Quasimode I think you could get away with but it's a nostalgia trip all the way.

QUOTE (WeeGee @ April 20, 2009 10:53 am)

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For a "history" it must be a bit of a short read then.

ha ha ha....

you'll be fine, beane

with the 'new' stuff, i'd stick with the likes of elizabeth shepherd, soil & pimp, 5CQ, DJAZZ, J.A.M. (that version of Quiet Fire will go down a fucking storm), cavril payne, even Scrim's certainly would work rather than anything too wonky..

UK VIBE great mag in its day, props to Mr Williams, a pure gent!

look forward to reading this book.

QUOTE (magsonjazz @ May 01, 2009 11:12 am)

QUOTE (Beane the Noodler @ May 01, 2009 10:59 am)

Really need to get this book. This scene massively interests me.

On a side note - I've been asked to do my first ever jazz dance set at long running nottingham night "Out to Lunch" in June and I'm starting to get a little nervous. Any tips from brownswooders who have played such gigs would be greatly appreciated! Let me get this straight - this isn't playing jazz music to people in a bar as background music while people get sauced. That's a piece of piss. No, this is a full on jazz dance. They come to move and you've gotta make em shake it. I've already starting picking the records out and despite being a little apprehensive I'm also massively excited about the possibility of playing some more modern fusion type stuff to them as the majority of the music played down there is in essence pure old school. I might even throw in some more contemporary wonky flavours from maybe the likes of IG Culture and co. Always remember the dancers going nuts when Red Rack Em played em Moonstarrs "Movin' on" and the like last year. Nearer the time I'll post up a proper event but it's a gig that's gotta be one of the scariest for me.

New Stuff??? No No No...

Trouble with the Jazz Dance scene is that it has never moved on. It is very hard to try and throw in new "old school" jazz dance as the majority of the dancers are of a certain age and era. Fair enough I say but they like those tunes that they remember and peform their routines to.

Stay strictly old school - plenty of fender rhodes fusion, some good hard bop and percussive / big band jazz. But it must be very up tempo. Playing new stuff at a jazz dance gig is a kop out I am afraid. Fine in a club that plays jazz of varying tempo's (nothing like throwing down a few mid tempo Brazilian numbers to get the females dancing).

Look at it this way....If they are not too welcoming on hearing old school jazz dance that is relatively new to their ears then new beats will be a bit of a shock. Stuff like Quasimode I think you could get away with but it's a nostalgia trip all the way.

The jazz dancers in Leeds appreciate some new stuff, especially broken.

yes sid... some of that's going in the bag

QUOTE

Look at it this way....If they are not too welcoming on hearing old school jazz dance that is relatively new to their ears then new beats will be a bit of a shock. Stuff like Quasimode I think you could get away with but it's a nostalgia trip all the way.

See this amazes me. The dancers we have down at our session must be the most versatile movers I've ever seen and I'd of thought, just like the music, that being open minded would be what the scene should be about. I've recently introduced my missus to the scene and she's a professional dance teacher and she watches and studies them with some kind of crazy fascination. While she acknowledges they have their own routines there's still a massive amount of freestyling going on on that dancefloor. Surely that must mimic the beauty and tempo of the music - you don't really know what's coming next.

I hear your comments but I do get the feeling they are quite open minded down at our session and what's quite nice is that the crowd has changed over the years a bit. Once upon a time it used to be just the hardcore dancers but now a lot of newer younger faces are starting to dare step onto the floor. Now I can't pretend to be an old school jazz collector - I'm not in the slightest. I own a bit and play a bit and I realise I'm stepping out of my comfort zone here but am still massively looking forward to it!

QUOTE (amblito @ May 01, 2009 11:36 am)

QUOTE (magsonjazz @ May 01, 2009 11:12 am)

QUOTE (Beane the Noodler @ May 01, 2009 10:59 am)

Really need to get this book. This scene massively interests me.

On a side note - I've been asked to do my first ever jazz dance set at long running nottingham night "Out to Lunch" in June and I'm starting to get a little nervous. Any tips from brownswooders who have played such gigs would be greatly appreciated! Let me get this straight - this isn't playing jazz music to people in a bar as background music while people get sauced. That's a piece of piss. No, this is a full on jazz dance. They come to move and you've gotta make em shake it. I've already starting picking the records out and despite being a little apprehensive I'm also massively excited about the possibility of playing some more modern fusion type stuff to them as the majority of the music played down there is in essence pure old school. I might even throw in some more contemporary wonky flavours from maybe the likes of IG Culture and co. Always remember the dancers going nuts when Red Rack Em played em Moonstarrs "Movin' on" and the like last year. Nearer the time I'll post up a proper event but it's a gig that's gotta be one of the scariest for me.

New Stuff??? No No No...

Trouble with the Jazz Dance scene is that it has never moved on. It is very hard to try and throw in new "old school" jazz dance as the majority of the dancers are of a certain age and era. Fair enough I say but they like those tunes that they remember and peform their routines to.

Stay strictly old school - plenty of fender rhodes fusion, some good hard bop and percussive / big band jazz. But it must be very up tempo. Playing new stuff at a jazz dance gig is a kop out I am afraid. Fine in a club that plays jazz of varying tempo's (nothing like throwing down a few mid tempo Brazilian numbers to get the females dancing).

Look at it this way....If they are not too welcoming on hearing old school jazz dance that is relatively new to their ears then new beats will be a bit of a shock. Stuff like Quasimode I think you could get away with but it's a nostalgia trip all the way.

The jazz dancers in Leeds appreciate some new stuff, especially broken.

They may appreciate it but the dancers who frequent Shiftless Shufle and Out to Lunch are more "traditionalist" in their musical tastes...

On a personal tip, there is enough clubs that cater for new stuff. Hearing other than jazz dance in a jazz dance club would see me heading for the exit. Recently, someone (who shall remain nameless), dropped a bit of techno at a jazz dance club, so someone went over and took the needle of the record....The best and only response in my book.

QUOTE (Beane the Noodler @ May 01, 2009 11:40 am)

yes sid... some of that's going in the bag

QUOTE

Look at it this way....If they are not too welcoming on hearing old school jazz dance that is relatively new to their ears then new beats will be a bit of a shock. Stuff like Quasimode I think you could get away with but it's a nostalgia trip all the way.

See this amazes me. The dancers we have down at our session must be the most versatile movers I've ever seen and I'd of thought, just like the music, that being open minded would be what the scene should be about. I've recently introduced my missus to the scene and she's a professional dance teacher and she watches and studies them with some kind of crazy fascination. While she acknowledges they have their own routines there's still a massive amount of freestyling going on on that dancefloor. Surely that must mimic the beauty and tempo of the music - you don't really know what's coming next.

I hear your comments but I do get the feeling they are quite open minded down at our session and what's quite nice is that the crowd has changed over the years a bit. Once upon a time it used to be just the hardcore dancers but now a lot of newer younger faces are starting to dare step onto the floor. Now I can't pretend to be an old school jazz collector - I'm not in the slightest. I own a bit and play a bit and I realise I'm stepping out of my comfort zone here but am still massively looking forward to it!

Well I think you are right in the fact that people should have more of an open mind. I totally agree with that but I am going on what I have seen with my own eye's for many years now.

I think you should be able to play whatever style suits you and challenge them. Remember, without you, they have nothing to dance to.

The Jazz dance scene is a little fickle at the best of times and if the dancers are that good then they should be able to adapt to any form of music along the jazz dance lines....

It's been a while since I played there - not spoken to Jim for a few years now. Enjoy it and good luck.

I thought it was a great gig the few times I ventured up there.