Not sure who was first, but there are plenty of examples of riffs or basslines or whatever being re-used or incorporated into different songs.

Check the bass from The Tempations "Masterpiece" and from Penny Goodwin's "Too Soon You're Old" - almost identical. And there is a thread on Soul Strut at the moment about the similarity between Can's "Vitamin C" and 24 Carat Black's "24 Carat Black Theme". Sometimes it's just coincidence.

that can vs carat black thread was about the only decent thread on there for the last month. although i am happy as a pig in shit to find my IAM lp is worth 200 euros.

interesting about Carl Sherlock Holmes, will check that when I get home. Sid you've got the repress right? Always felt the pressing on that was effing awful. Big J Bailey LP.

beane probably

slim said everything that needed saying.
almost everyone else (largely djs and not producers, youll note) needs to stop being so self-righteous.
i know, thats rich.

both portishead and tricky sampling the same Issac Hayes track for 'Glory box' and 'Hell is round the corner' respectively which were both released at around the same time

I have really enjoyed this debate re the pros and cons of edits. I feel the need to nail my colours to the mast: I am in favour of them.

As Slim SK rightly said, Edits are not a new phenomenon; all those Walter Gibbons remixes were in fact edits (in my view) - as WG felt the need to improve on the originals, not that most of them weren’t good in the first place, but he rightly felt there was more ‘quality’ to be added to them. A case example is Fist O’ Funk Orchestra’s “Get up on Your Feet”. I have the LP version which is a so-so track at the very most (it would hardly catch anyone’s attention if I played it out or put it on a disco mix). But go and check the extremely rare Walter Gibbons 12” Remix – dont boder look for dis choon haha – to see how he greatly improves on the original. He transforms the track, injecting a pure cosmic disco feel (oh gosh) along with a very enticing percussive breakdown. Big big music. He does the same on his remix of Rare Earths “Happy Song & Dance” (DREAD TUNE), heavily bootlegged in the early 90s: if this does not get you shaking your batty on the dance floor, nothing will!

I remember being in a bar about 10 years ago: Diana Ross’ “I’m Coming Out” got dropped and, a friend of mine who was very young when the original was released in the early 80s, exclaimed to me and some other friends - ‘so that’s where P Diddy got it from,’ referring to Diddy’s usage of the track on his hit “Mo’ Money, Mo' Problems” [feat.Biggie and Mase]; because lets face it, “Mo’ Money, Mo' Problems” is a hip hop edit of Diana Ross’ classic. Which brings me back to my first intervention in this thread where I agreed with a slice of Olly’s point and I’m happy to quote it again, especially with regards to the Diana Ross tune:

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thats rich

No they werent

he added bits to them

They are remixes

We had all this yesterday

Do keep up

I disagree - LOLLY

Oh and i love Mark E's edit of "Baby I'm Scared Of You", by the way. Sorry! haha

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This one (very apt considering this is a remix/reedit/whatever discussion) is worth checking out:

http://www.soulstrut.com/ubbthreads/showfl...e=4#Post1267180

That Gloria Ann Taylor record is nuts (apparantly a soul tune with disco drums overdubbed). I suppose that would make it a mash up.

Thats not a re-edit either

Dayo

I need to hear your definition of a re-edit

Welcome to your new home everyone...

Dave P, lets agree to disgaree or else we'll be here till the cows come home hahaha

*Memories of Gilles P dropping that Mark E edit last year at his xmas party in plastic people and 300 people going absolutely mental. Incredulous SCENES!!! lol

Big big thread. Beansy (as usual)...take bow

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no dave. re-edit, remix, it's totally blurred now sorry.
kinda agreed with you in the first place, a edit should be nothing added whatsoever, just cut, splice, re-order, bosh. but you cant be a facist about terms and definitions in music anymore.
i know, thats a bit rich.

i like todd terje very much, but if i hear that edit again i will definitely be sick