Edits

QUOTE (Picko-d- @ March 17, 2009 03:53 pm)

BUT

sometimes its worth just searching for the original 12"'s

Theres plenty of 'pop' 12"'s from the 1980's if you flip them over you get some really obscure / balearic/ cosmic mixes - the era was ripe for experimentationalism on the flip of pop 12"'s

yeah but were not all your age dave

Your not born knowing everything and sometimes the only way you find out about certain artists is when people who know the records pass em on to you in the form of a bootleg, edit, remix or cover version.

If I'd of known you were such an Olivia Newton-John connoisseur I'd of come to you first son

QUOTE (Red Rack'em @ March 17, 2009 03:26 pm)

Oh and on that note - please can someone recommend me some decent original uptempo music to buy right now....

Also meant to say - check G's myspazz for his Pezzner remix - summat to do with Freerange, I think - v. nice.

QUOTE (Beane the Noodler @ March 17, 2009 03:58 pm)

QUOTE (Picko-d- @ March 17, 2009 03:53 pm)

BUT

sometimes its worth just searching for the original 12"'s

Theres plenty of 'pop' 12"'s from the 1980's if you flip them over you get some really obscure / balearic/ cosmic mixes - the era was ripe for experimentationalism on the flip of pop 12"'s

yeah but were not all your age dave

Your not born knowing everything and sometimes the only way you find out about certain artists is when people who know the records pass em on to you in the form of a bootleg, edit, remix or cover version.

If I'd of known you were such an Olivia Newton-John connoisseur I'd of come to you first son

2nd hand record shops

Crates - Dig

"can I listen to these please ?"

Jobs a good un

I know what you are saying Beane about not knowing what to listen to because you dont know it exists - but isnt that the same about everything ?

QUOTE (seymore bellchunk @ March 17, 2009 02:36 pm)

QUOTE (Nikos @ March 17, 2009 02:20 pm)

Really like the Bee Gees one. I think it was on a Mark E podcast from a while back.

Ah yes, i knew i had heard it before somewhere.Think it was his RA mix.
Pretty good considering its the bee gee's.

I heard this on the RA podcast too, superb re-edit.

QUOTE (Picko-d- @ March 17, 2009 03:36 pm)

most now are just acts of turd polishing

one man's turd..

you can't dismiss a phenomenon that's becoming a dominant force, just because it is.
all of music is game, and will be re-made in one way or other.
whether you like it or buy it is an entirely different matter

edits have always been around - look at series like moton and automan, or stretch back to ron hardy and beyond for proof,
its just that now with today's easily availaible software, anyone can make them, hence the amount around now, inevitably resulting in there being so many.
perception of quality suffers from quantity, but that doesn't mean that greatness won't emerge

as danny says, some are a way of making available tunes that may be hard to get hold of in the past. they're also are a way of making many aware of them for the first time (great educationally so that those that were too young or missed them can get to hear them), and finally a means to hear them in a different light - re-contextualised to present time

yes it can be annoying to have someone ruin something that you hold dear, but get over it
if it makes you groove.. a lot of it does me..

house was built on samples. edits are an extension of that. as with all musics there will emerge the good and the poor. if you can't discern between them that's down to you. if you buy them its down to you. to dismiss them is foolery

i like the cole medina beegees edit myself. you can hear it as first track > here - the risky disco august 08 (keep up beane

) warm session up for... danny rack-em

> here's a record from 06 (as heard on ttbone recent podcast) with an abba sample. i like it

uptempo danny.. how fast d'ya want it? i reckon that new joris voorn lp sounds good
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Balance-014-Mixed-...34758324&sr=8-1

other than that, start re-editing some hi energy or listening to drum & bass

the point about a lot of the edits is that they are adding a new edge to long forgotten disco records, which a new generation, slightly jaded with generic dance music can relate to. They CAN work [when done well] brilliantly on all sorts of dancefloors. It's like Beane said, they're fun on holiday and at festivals and in certain cases, people like Greg Wilson have turned the whole phenomenon into an art form. I was saying this on djh yesterday too on the mindless boogie thread, in this instance Peter Visti, transforming jolene into dolly - which I consider close to genius whilst in the very series Woolfy does a pointless rehash of band on the run. I don't see why any of them should really raise hackles though. It's all just cheeky, playful party fun and that is that. Anyway, there's nothing revolutionary in music anymore - all you can really do is find new slants on the past.

I know it's not technically an edit (more a massive sample mash-up thing) but I LOVE Swayzak - 'Stronger Love' on the new Claremont 56 'Originals' album.

http://www.juno.co.uk/products/Mark-SEVEN-...ume-2/344062-1/

The whole album is brilliant actually.

well "Love Me Like This" is an edit really isn't it

just as Danny Krivit reworks his edits with additional instrumentation, as Yam Who did with "Skyy", so FPS has done with "Love.."

so i'd say the edits debate is closed since everyone agrees it's a monster

QUOTE (Olly @ March 17, 2009 04:20 pm)

the point about a lot of the edits is that they are adding a new edge to long forgotten disco records,

Thats called remixing

QUOTE (Kerry @ March 17, 2009 04:23 pm)

The whole album is brilliant actually.

sure is. coudn't make the launch on saturday- any reports? i heard mark went very house

QUOTE (slim @ March 17, 2009 04:20 pm)

QUOTE (Picko-d- @ March 17, 2009 03:36 pm)

most now are just acts of turd polishing

one man's turd..

you can't dismiss a phenomenon that's becoming a dominant force, just because it is.
all of music is game, and will be re-made in one way or other.
whether you like it or buy it is an entirely different matter

edits have always been around - look at series like moton and automan, or stretch back to ron hardy and beyond for proof,
its just that now with today's easily availaible software, anyone can make them, hence the amount around now, inevitably resulting in there being so many.
perception of quality suffers from quantity, but that doesn't mean that greatness won't emerge

as danny says, some are a way of making available tunes that may be hard to get hold of in the past. they're also are a way of making many aware of them for the first time (great educationally so that those that were too young or missed them can get to hear them), and finally a means to hear them in a different light - re-contextualised to present time

yes it can be annoying to have someone ruin something that you hold dear, but get over it
if it makes you groove.. a lot of it does me..

house was built on samples. edits are an extension of that. as with all musics there will emerge the good and the poor. if you can't discern between them that's down to you. if you buy them its down to you. to dismiss them is foolery

i like the cole medina beegees edit myself. you can hear it as first track > here - the risky disco august 08 (keep up beane

) warm session up for... danny rack-em

> here's a record from 06 (as heard on ttbone recent podcast) with an abba sample. i like it

uptempo danny.. how fast d'ya want it? i reckon that new joris voorn lp sounds good
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Balance-014-Mixed-...34758324&sr=8-1

other than that, start re-editing some hi energy or listening to drum & bass

"house was built on samples. edits are an extension of that"

Thats some sweeping statement

if you had read what I have written today (and in the past) you will know that I'm, all for a re-edit

I just think recently the 'quality control' stamp has gone a bit meh

QUOTE (slim @ March 17, 2009 04:20 pm)

You can't dismiss a phenomenon that's becoming a dominant force, just because it is.

oh to have a time machine, where's that Marvin edit thread.

QUOTE (Olly @ March 17, 2009 04:20 pm)

, in this instance Peter Visti, transforming jolene into dolly - which I consider close to genius whilst in the very series Woolfy does a pointless rehash of band on the run.

I liked the band on the run re-edit !!!

didnt Peter Visti do that brilliant 'budda' re-edit of the human leagues 'Being boiled' which GD put on one of his balearic mixes from last year

QUOTE (Unknown @ March 17, 2009 04:28 pm)

well "Love Me Like This" is an edit really isn't it

just as Danny Krivit reworks his edits with additional instrumentation, as Yam Who did with "Skyy", so FPS has done with "Love.."

so i'd say the edits debate is closed since everyone agrees it's a monster

big tunes, gargantuan tunes in fact, edits they are not tho in my book

if your allowed to add in what ever you want to an edit then what the flying watermelon do you class as a remix?

hang on - this is getting far to geeky - mods - edit this thread please, don't add anything tho

QUOTE (Olly @ March 17, 2009 04:20 pm)

the point about a lot of the edits is that they are adding a new edge to long forgotten disco records, which a new generation, slightly jaded with generic dance music can relate to.

On point!

: )

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